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		<title>By: The Dominion Picture I Wanted To Take &#171; EVE Online Pictures</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/12/04/eve-online-40-minutes-to-evaulon/comment-page-1/#comment-17433</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dominion Picture I Wanted To Take &#171; EVE Online Pictures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve more or less accepted that I will occasionally do things that other factions may not enjoy. I am already perilously close to not being able to go into Caldari or Amarr space; I&#039;ve stopped taking missions that directly involve those factions, but ones like the Evaulon mission aren&#039;t as clear-cut. Did this actually hurt Caldari standings? I don&#039;t know.

Thanks for the tip about aligning to a safe spot :) I&#039;d love to live in a wormhole, but that has its own drawbacks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve more or less accepted that I will occasionally do things that other factions may not enjoy. I am already perilously close to not being able to go into Caldari or Amarr space; I&#8217;ve stopped taking missions that directly involve those factions, but ones like the Evaulon mission aren&#8217;t as clear-cut. Did this actually hurt Caldari standings? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip about aligning to a safe spot :) I&#8217;d love to live in a wormhole, but that has its own drawbacks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Koori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tipa - There is sort of way to align to safespot. You just start warping to it and then cancel warp just before you go FTL. They you just maintain max speed. It&#039;s not ideal, but you should be able to start warping to SS in 2-3 seconds.

I&#039;ve stopped doing storyline missions a while ago. I don like the negative standing hit to opposing factions. I&#039;d hate it if there was great corp that I could join but I could not live with them because of standing. Besides, I use missions as income source only if I dont have time for WH exploration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tipa &#8211; There is sort of way to align to safespot. You just start warping to it and then cancel warp just before you go FTL. They you just maintain max speed. It&#8217;s not ideal, but you should be able to start warping to SS in 2-3 seconds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve stopped doing storyline missions a while ago. I don like the negative standing hit to opposing factions. I&#8217;d hate it if there was great corp that I could join but I could not live with them because of standing. Besides, I use missions as income source only if I dont have time for WH exploration.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Koori -- I did have a safe spot, but the problem with safe spots is that you can&#039;t align to them. I was aligned to a planet so I could make a quick getaway once Scorp and Toldain were free of the mission. So yup, in the end I blundered right into a hunter :/

@wilhelm -- selling datacores is always an option. I figured I&#039;d have to head to the marketplace for some of the stuff I&#039;ll need; if the stuff I need to buy makes it too expensive to make, I can just sell the cores :) Or build more expensive things with better margins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Koori &#8212; I did have a safe spot, but the problem with safe spots is that you can&#8217;t align to them. I was aligned to a planet so I could make a quick getaway once Scorp and Toldain were free of the mission. So yup, in the end I blundered right into a hunter :/</p>
<p>@wilhelm &#8212; selling datacores is always an option. I figured I&#8217;d have to head to the marketplace for some of the stuff I&#8217;ll need; if the stuff I need to buy makes it too expensive to make, I can just sell the cores :) Or build more expensive things with better margins.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh -- actually, same here. I got this one when I found a moon close to a planet and on the correct side, sort of. I warped to the moon and then to the planet and took this shot. It took a LOT of arranging. It was a lot easier to get good moon shots, but I wanted a green, Earth-like planet or nothing at all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh &#8212; actually, same here. I got this one when I found a moon close to a planet and on the correct side, sort of. I warped to the moon and then to the planet and took this shot. It took a LOT of arranging. It was a lot easier to get good moon shots, but I wanted a green, Earth-like planet or nothing at all :)</p>
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		<title>By: wilhelm2451</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Tipa, I am extremely jealous of that screen shot.  As soon as Dominion was up, I spent two hours warping to planets trying to get a decent shot like that.  For some reason, my nav computer felt that only the dark sides of planets were viable points to stop.

@Magson - Wow, I&#039;ve never seen one and I&#039;ve run a lot of missions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Tipa, I am extremely jealous of that screen shot.  As soon as Dominion was up, I spent two hours warping to planets trying to get a decent shot like that.  For some reason, my nav computer felt that only the dark sides of planets were viable points to stop.</p>
<p>@Magson &#8211; Wow, I&#8217;ve never seen one and I&#8217;ve run a lot of missions.</p>
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		<title>By: Magson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TAGN -- not new, just the combat storylines are pretty rare.  Most are courier.

FWIW, my last storyline was a courier to drop a 1 m^3 item 6 jumps away.  I got 15 million isk for it.  And the system was 1 jump from jita so I used my industrial and hauled 3 weeks worth of L4 loot along while I was at it.  Trip was worth over 150 million isk to me.  And then I bought the cheap(er in Jita) tags I needed to get a CN Invuln Field from the LP store back at my home base.

Yeah, that all worked out nicely, actually. . . . 

But yeah.. combat storylines do exist, and they&#039;re usually a step up from a regular mission, they&#039;re just rare, is all.  If you do get one -- bring friends, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TAGN &#8212; not new, just the combat storylines are pretty rare.  Most are courier.</p>
<p>FWIW, my last storyline was a courier to drop a 1 m^3 item 6 jumps away.  I got 15 million isk for it.  And the system was 1 jump from jita so I used my industrial and hauled 3 weeks worth of L4 loot along while I was at it.  Trip was worth over 150 million isk to me.  And then I bought the cheap(er in Jita) tags I needed to get a CN Invuln Field from the LP store back at my home base.</p>
<p>Yeah, that all worked out nicely, actually. . . . </p>
<p>But yeah.. combat storylines do exist, and they&#8217;re usually a step up from a regular mission, they&#8217;re just rare, is all.  If you do get one &#8212; bring friends, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: wilhelm2451</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the invention thing for a while... I still do it now and again for a distraction.  I did missiles, expanded cargoholds, drones, and a couple of other things at various times.  Eventually I decided that I was better off piling up five research agents and just harvesting the datacores for sale and using the ISK from that to buy what I need.  Of course, of late, I haven&#039;t needed much in the way of supplies.

And once you do get that tech II BPC, you&#039;ll find that you&#039;ll need special materials to build the tech II drones, something else that will be out of your control unless you start in on moon mining. (Potshot and I were working towards that before we hit the great summer of space ennui.)

Not that I am saying you should give up.  I was quite satisfied to make my own tech II stuff for a bit.  But it take dedication to make it a career.

@Koori - I don&#039;t know about the storyline missions generally being hard/time consuming.  I had one that gave me 5 million ISK for delivering a package (0.1 m3 in size) to another planet in the same system, and the most common one I get is to deliver 8,000 units of kernite to the agent in question.  In fact, I&#039;ve never seen a storyline mission as nasty as what Tipa experienced.  Something new with Dominion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the invention thing for a while&#8230; I still do it now and again for a distraction.  I did missiles, expanded cargoholds, drones, and a couple of other things at various times.  Eventually I decided that I was better off piling up five research agents and just harvesting the datacores for sale and using the ISK from that to buy what I need.  Of course, of late, I haven&#8217;t needed much in the way of supplies.</p>
<p>And once you do get that tech II BPC, you&#8217;ll find that you&#8217;ll need special materials to build the tech II drones, something else that will be out of your control unless you start in on moon mining. (Potshot and I were working towards that before we hit the great summer of space ennui.)</p>
<p>Not that I am saying you should give up.  I was quite satisfied to make my own tech II stuff for a bit.  But it take dedication to make it a career.</p>
<p>@Koori &#8211; I don&#8217;t know about the storyline missions generally being hard/time consuming.  I had one that gave me 5 million ISK for delivering a package (0.1 m3 in size) to another planet in the same system, and the most common one I get is to deliver 8,000 units of kernite to the agent in question.  In fact, I&#8217;ve never seen a storyline mission as nasty as what Tipa experienced.  Something new with Dominion?</p>
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		<title>By: Magson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/agree on the &quot;make multiple safe spots in any lowsec system&quot; before doing anything.  If you can&#039;t warp to a safe where they&#039;ve got to scan you down, then you&#039;ll just be playing tag on the celestials.

My experience with storyline combat missions is that they do tend to be significantly more difficult than other missions.  That 22 jump route into deep lowsec thing on yours I think was pure unluckiness, though -- I&#039;ve never had to go farther than 8 jumps for a storyline, personally (though some have been in lowsec).

Still... makes for a good story and it sounds like you had a lot of fun :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/agree on the &#8220;make multiple safe spots in any lowsec system&#8221; before doing anything.  If you can&#8217;t warp to a safe where they&#8217;ve got to scan you down, then you&#8217;ll just be playing tag on the celestials.</p>
<p>My experience with storyline combat missions is that they do tend to be significantly more difficult than other missions.  That 22 jump route into deep lowsec thing on yours I think was pure unluckiness, though &#8212; I&#8217;ve never had to go farther than 8 jumps for a storyline, personally (though some have been in lowsec).</p>
<p>Still&#8230; makes for a good story and it sounds like you had a lot of fun :D</p>
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		<title>By: Koori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that storyline missions are ment to be hard/time consuming. The rewards are often quite good and you get faction standing with them. I think you got a little unlucky with mission location. 
I think that the best bet for finishing the mission was not to stay inside of mission pocket for more than a minute. Just shoot 1-2 ships and warp away (repeat until done). That way you can avoid combat scanners most of the time. It would take alot of time to finish a mission that way, but if it was important it&#039;s usually worth it. And it&#039;s great tale for later :-)

Additionally - always have safespot (or 3) in lowsec system. The first thing pirates are doing is checking the planets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that storyline missions are ment to be hard/time consuming. The rewards are often quite good and you get faction standing with them. I think you got a little unlucky with mission location.<br />
I think that the best bet for finishing the mission was not to stay inside of mission pocket for more than a minute. Just shoot 1-2 ships and warp away (repeat until done). That way you can avoid combat scanners most of the time. It would take alot of time to finish a mission that way, but if it was important it&#8217;s usually worth it. And it&#8217;s great tale for later :-)</p>
<p>Additionally &#8211; always have safespot (or 3) in lowsec system. The first thing pirates are doing is checking the planets.</p>
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