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	<title>Comments on: Daily Blogroll 9/1 &#8211; Hell, O Kiddie edition</title>
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		<title>By: Saylah</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/09/01/daily-blogroll-91-hell-o-kiddie-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15832</link>
		<dc:creator>Saylah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t agree with the kids and gaming.  My son and nephew both played on school sports teams, were on the honor rolls and played WOW.  My son raided during the days of the 40-mans.  We had a schedule and rules about how late he could be doing anything, not just gaming.  I don&#039;t think he&#039;s any worse for it.  As they grew they treated MMOs as something you do when you can&#039;t get to your friends.  People like to talk about the &quot;get outside&quot; part of it but how much &quot;get outside&quot; time is there in the average day especially fall and winter depending on where you live?  The kids and adults I know that play exchanged MMOs for TV time.  They still do all the other things they did in &quot;rl&quot; but don&#039;t want TV hardly at all.  Eh fair exchange in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t agree with the kids and gaming.  My son and nephew both played on school sports teams, were on the honor rolls and played WOW.  My son raided during the days of the 40-mans.  We had a schedule and rules about how late he could be doing anything, not just gaming.  I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s any worse for it.  As they grew they treated MMOs as something you do when you can&#8217;t get to your friends.  People like to talk about the &#8220;get outside&#8221; part of it but how much &#8220;get outside&#8221; time is there in the average day especially fall and winter depending on where you live?  The kids and adults I know that play exchanged MMOs for TV time.  They still do all the other things they did in &#8220;rl&#8221; but don&#8217;t want TV hardly at all.  Eh fair exchange in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/09/01/daily-blogroll-91-hell-o-kiddie-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15831</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, HKO is pretty bloody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, HKO is pretty bloody.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/09/01/daily-blogroll-91-hell-o-kiddie-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15830</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/09/01/daily-blogroll-91-hell-o-kiddie-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15829</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids should be on the computer at max, an hour a day. They have plenty of time to develop a sedentary lifestyle when they get older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids should be on the computer at max, an hour a day. They have plenty of time to develop a sedentary lifestyle when they get older.</p>
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		<title>By: mbp</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/09/01/daily-blogroll-91-hell-o-kiddie-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15825</link>
		<dc:creator>mbp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we can expect soon to be reading posts about Hello Kitty online side by side with posts about EVE - Freaky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we can expect soon to be reading posts about Hello Kitty online side by side with posts about EVE &#8211; Freaky.</p>
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		<title>By: Logged_off</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logged_off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you really want your kid growing up, learning how to interact with people via what you hear over voice chat while raiding&lt;/i&gt;

Nope, he gets all he needs thanks to that other wonderful invention...TV.

Really, to us it seems silly to hide all things from the child, so that when they become Teenagers, their friends and peers will show them much worse. 
I rather they hear it now, and I control what happens, and can let them know that, for example, f*ck is just 4 letters someone decided to put together to make a word...and it has ZERO power and really is just 4 letters.

We have already discussed drugs, sex, and more.

The best news. Since my 10 year old has been playing and MMO, he has done something amazing. He now is reading more (he reads all the quest text in game), and asked for and is reading his first Fantasy novel. 
His math skills have gone through the roof (thanks to working on the Trader systems selling gear) and he likes to spend time &quot;planning&quot; now (he actually planned out the specific steps to clean his room this past weekend...with no coercion from the parental units)

Anyways, outside is over rated in my opinion (Serial Killers, Cancer causing sunlight, kidnappers, bugs carrying diseases....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you really want your kid growing up, learning how to interact with people via what you hear over voice chat while raiding</i></p>
<p>Nope, he gets all he needs thanks to that other wonderful invention&#8230;TV.</p>
<p>Really, to us it seems silly to hide all things from the child, so that when they become Teenagers, their friends and peers will show them much worse.<br />
I rather they hear it now, and I control what happens, and can let them know that, for example, f*ck is just 4 letters someone decided to put together to make a word&#8230;and it has ZERO power and really is just 4 letters.</p>
<p>We have already discussed drugs, sex, and more.</p>
<p>The best news. Since my 10 year old has been playing and MMO, he has done something amazing. He now is reading more (he reads all the quest text in game), and asked for and is reading his first Fantasy novel.<br />
His math skills have gone through the roof (thanks to working on the Trader systems selling gear) and he likes to spend time &#8220;planning&#8221; now (he actually planned out the specific steps to clean his room this past weekend&#8230;with no coercion from the parental units)</p>
<p>Anyways, outside is over rated in my opinion (Serial Killers, Cancer causing sunlight, kidnappers, bugs carrying diseases&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Green Armadillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Armadillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I have seen so far, it doesn&#039;t sound like the EQ2 achievements will be anywhere near as intrusive as WoW&#039;s.  There are websites out there that will query the armory and not only tell you whether a player has done the instance you&#039;re looking for but how many times (final boss kills for all current instances are tallied on the publicly available stat page) and how far above the level of the instance their gear is in one convenient snobbery number.    I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen a PUG leader asked to link their achievement, but it&#039;s a largely moot point since people who make such requests generally come from guilds that have raid content on farm.  Even knowing how many times they had done the content won&#039;t tell you whether they did it AFTER someone else did the hard work of learning it.  

I am a bit surprized at all the players rushing back to WoW.  I can understand wanting to get the old content in before it is removed (I&#039;m probably going to do this myself), but this expansion is almost certainly 9+ months away.  It makes me sad because I had actually planned in advance to spend September in Azeroth before there was any sort of expansion announcement, and now I feel derivative because everyone else has already done it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I have seen so far, it doesn&#8217;t sound like the EQ2 achievements will be anywhere near as intrusive as WoW&#8217;s.  There are websites out there that will query the armory and not only tell you whether a player has done the instance you&#8217;re looking for but how many times (final boss kills for all current instances are tallied on the publicly available stat page) and how far above the level of the instance their gear is in one convenient snobbery number.    I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen a PUG leader asked to link their achievement, but it&#8217;s a largely moot point since people who make such requests generally come from guilds that have raid content on farm.  Even knowing how many times they had done the content won&#8217;t tell you whether they did it AFTER someone else did the hard work of learning it.  </p>
<p>I am a bit surprized at all the players rushing back to WoW.  I can understand wanting to get the old content in before it is removed (I&#8217;m probably going to do this myself), but this expansion is almost certainly 9+ months away.  It makes me sad because I had actually planned in advance to spend September in Azeroth before there was any sort of expansion announcement, and now I feel derivative because everyone else has already done it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/09/01/daily-blogroll-91-hell-o-kiddie-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15819</link>
		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are the group leaders who are insisting they be sent stats and achievement links before they will let someone in the group&quot;

Yes...its so annoying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are the group leaders who are insisting they be sent stats and achievement links before they will let someone in the group&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;its so annoying&#8230;</p>
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