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	<title>Comments on: Daily Blogroll 8/18: Champions Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Champions Online: Beta Impressions Collected &#171; Bio Break</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/08/18/daily-blogroll-818-champions-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15652</link>
		<dc:creator>Champions Online: Beta Impressions Collected &#171; Bio Break</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay so it&#039;s not ALL pay to play beta :)

The old launcher eventually did work for me. I left it going when I went to work and it was done by the time I got home. But I got pulled into EVE and didn&#039;t get a chance to play. I&#039;m not really all that excited about doing the parts of the game I&#039;ve done before and having it all wiped away again, so not sure I&#039;ll be playing the beta. Maybe I will make some heroes and save their costumes....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay so it&#8217;s not ALL pay to play beta :)</p>
<p>The old launcher eventually did work for me. I left it going when I went to work and it was done by the time I got home. But I got pulled into EVE and didn&#8217;t get a chance to play. I&#8217;m not really all that excited about doing the parts of the game I&#8217;ve done before and having it all wiped away again, so not sure I&#8217;ll be playing the beta. Maybe I will make some heroes and save their costumes&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think you had to preorder Champions to get into this beta (am I wrong about this?)&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, you are wrong about this. Both preordering or having a Fileplanet subscription gets you a guaranteed beta spot. If you are neither and still want in, you can still apply at Fileplanet, because they hand out their remaining beta keys if they weren&#039;t all picked up by the subscribers.

If you are stuck in the patcher, you probably still got the original, not working version of the client. Best solution is a complete uninstall of that one, downloading the new and improved (improved as in now actually working) version of the client, and installing that one.

And while you are at it, you might want to connect a gamepad to your PC, preferably an XBox controller for PC. That makes it a lot easier to realize what Champions Online really is: A console MMORPG. If you expect a classic PC MMORPG, you might end up disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think you had to preorder Champions to get into this beta (am I wrong about this?)</i></p>
<p>Yes, you are wrong about this. Both preordering or having a Fileplanet subscription gets you a guaranteed beta spot. If you are neither and still want in, you can still apply at Fileplanet, because they hand out their remaining beta keys if they weren&#8217;t all picked up by the subscribers.</p>
<p>If you are stuck in the patcher, you probably still got the original, not working version of the client. Best solution is a complete uninstall of that one, downloading the new and improved (improved as in now actually working) version of the client, and installing that one.</p>
<p>And while you are at it, you might want to connect a gamepad to your PC, preferably an XBox controller for PC. That makes it a lot easier to realize what Champions Online really is: A console MMORPG. If you expect a classic PC MMORPG, you might end up disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: We Fly Spitfires</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Fly Spitfires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you&#039;re waiting to patch CO too :) I&#039;m really curious to try it but my beta patch is still at 85%. Grr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you&#8217;re waiting to patch CO too :) I&#8217;m really curious to try it but my beta patch is still at 85%. Grr!</p>
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		<title>By: Yarrnath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yarrnath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aion gave away thousands of free game keys for each &quot;closed beta&quot; event, so no you didn&#039;t have to pre-order to try it, but only if you were lucky enough to get one of the free keys, which went very quickly. As they were &quot;closed events&quot; I have no problems with Aion mostly only letting in pre-orders to check it out. I hope for the open beta they don&#039;t pull a similar deal like Cryptic and use File Planet. If you are releasing a MMO that is supposedly &quot;AAA&quot; quality, then you better be able to field your own download and patching servers; as well as let anyone in that wants to try it without having to subscribe to some lame third party site, free or otherwise.

As to &quot;beta events&quot;, they are a total joke these days. I&#039;ve been in several this year and most were nothing but preview events. Aion, which is already released in Asia, but they did work on fixing the English translation section and will apparently take player feedback in mind (please fix or remove Gameguard!). Free Realms, which pretty much ignored the players (as they continue to do) as bugs I reported in beta are still in the game, even after repeated reporting of them since release. And so on. Just call them &quot;preview events&quot;, how can they be &quot;beta&quot; when the games have already gone gold and are being boxed and shipped during the &quot;beta&quot;?

Love the comics you do from the various MMO games (Monopoly too) and the daily blog updates are great. Thanks for taking the time to do them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aion gave away thousands of free game keys for each &#8220;closed beta&#8221; event, so no you didn&#8217;t have to pre-order to try it, but only if you were lucky enough to get one of the free keys, which went very quickly. As they were &#8220;closed events&#8221; I have no problems with Aion mostly only letting in pre-orders to check it out. I hope for the open beta they don&#8217;t pull a similar deal like Cryptic and use File Planet. If you are releasing a MMO that is supposedly &#8220;AAA&#8221; quality, then you better be able to field your own download and patching servers; as well as let anyone in that wants to try it without having to subscribe to some lame third party site, free or otherwise.</p>
<p>As to &#8220;beta events&#8221;, they are a total joke these days. I&#8217;ve been in several this year and most were nothing but preview events. Aion, which is already released in Asia, but they did work on fixing the English translation section and will apparently take player feedback in mind (please fix or remove Gameguard!). Free Realms, which pretty much ignored the players (as they continue to do) as bugs I reported in beta are still in the game, even after repeated reporting of them since release. And so on. Just call them &#8220;preview events&#8221;, how can they be &#8220;beta&#8221; when the games have already gone gold and are being boxed and shipped during the &#8220;beta&#8221;?</p>
<p>Love the comics you do from the various MMO games (Monopoly too) and the daily blog updates are great. Thanks for taking the time to do them!</p>
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		<title>By: Green Armadillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Armadillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think that developers should lose the right to play the &quot;it&#039;s just beta, we owe you nothing&quot; card when their publisher charges for beta access.  You can have a free beta (open or closed) and owe participants nothing, or you can charge money for access to your beta and be judged on the quality of the service you provide.  Once the tester forks over non-refundable money, they&#039;re a customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think that developers should lose the right to play the &#8220;it&#8217;s just beta, we owe you nothing&#8221; card when their publisher charges for beta access.  You can have a free beta (open or closed) and owe participants nothing, or you can charge money for access to your beta and be judged on the quality of the service you provide.  Once the tester forks over non-refundable money, they&#8217;re a customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post. You are awesome at these daily updates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post. You are awesome at these daily updates.</p>
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