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	<title>Comments on: Evony and Irony: Why I will never play this game.</title>
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		<title>By: gunther</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/07/10/evony-and-irony-why-i-will-never-play-this-game/comment-page-2/#comment-19036</link>
		<dc:creator>gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hay evony is a good game just so adicting that you cant take you eyes off it and you just whant to put your fist through the screan of yoiur computer \]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hay evony is a good game just so adicting that you cant take you eyes off it and you just whant to put your fist through the screan of yoiur computer \</p>
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		<title>By: Bruceongames</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/07/10/evony-and-irony-why-i-will-never-play-this-game/comment-page-2/#comment-18567</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruceongames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have now researched the shadowy people behind Evony and written it up as an article: http://www.bruceongames.com/2010/02/19/the-people-behind-evony/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have now researched the shadowy people behind Evony and written it up as an article: <a href="http://www.bruceongames.com/2010/02/19/the-people-behind-evony/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruceongames.com/2010/02/19/the-people-behind-evony/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a student studying computer games design at uni and decided to investigate Evony.com.
Just to see what some of these games are like etc. etc.
The game is actually kind of cool (found myself addicted and even spent a little money on it).
But I started to notice HUGE bandwidth use by the site as I played.
I am not the only one either, there are comments on the evony forums about this.
This is odd because all of the client info, the animations etc. are all downloaded in one big download at the start.
There is no streaming media so I began to wonder what was going on.

To cut a long story short I decided to break the law and reverse engineer Evony&#039;s client.
Not to cheat. Not to rip them off or even to use even a scrap of the code.
But just to poke about a bit and find out what was going on, maybe even offer them some ways to improve things.

Aside from the fact that the whole thing is very poorly constructed (it is really very beginner coder level stuff. Reminds me of a lot of
what the first year students produce for assignments) it contained some very interesting information.

Included with the client are 2 peices of tracking software that monitor your web use and which applications you have open while the client is running.
These do not install independently on the machine though due to the limitations of flash and do not actually damage anything.
But they harvest massive volumes of information. My firewall was blocking a lot of outgoing transmissions and it turns out that these
were the data trying to be sent out. So they know nothing about me. lol.
However there is a LOT of data coming IN over the ports the client uses. In otherwords it is downloading something into my cache for use later.
I have bandiwdth restriction which slows these types of tricks down and I completely clear my cache every couple of hours if I am heavily using the net.

I also noticed that all the varanbles etc. are named Civony still and that there are multiple references to UMGE.
Even a couple of folders are simply called UMGE, one of these folders contains one of the spyware programs.
So I can only guess at where the data would end up if I didnt have a good firewall.

There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.

Thank you for reading this.

  Lee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a student studying computer games design at uni and decided to investigate Evony.com.<br />
Just to see what some of these games are like etc. etc.<br />
The game is actually kind of cool (found myself addicted and even spent a little money on it).<br />
But I started to notice HUGE bandwidth use by the site as I played.<br />
I am not the only one either, there are comments on the evony forums about this.<br />
This is odd because all of the client info, the animations etc. are all downloaded in one big download at the start.<br />
There is no streaming media so I began to wonder what was going on.</p>
<p>To cut a long story short I decided to break the law and reverse engineer Evony&#8217;s client.<br />
Not to cheat. Not to rip them off or even to use even a scrap of the code.<br />
But just to poke about a bit and find out what was going on, maybe even offer them some ways to improve things.</p>
<p>Aside from the fact that the whole thing is very poorly constructed (it is really very beginner coder level stuff. Reminds me of a lot of<br />
what the first year students produce for assignments) it contained some very interesting information.</p>
<p>Included with the client are 2 peices of tracking software that monitor your web use and which applications you have open while the client is running.<br />
These do not install independently on the machine though due to the limitations of flash and do not actually damage anything.<br />
But they harvest massive volumes of information. My firewall was blocking a lot of outgoing transmissions and it turns out that these<br />
were the data trying to be sent out. So they know nothing about me. lol.<br />
However there is a LOT of data coming IN over the ports the client uses. In otherwords it is downloading something into my cache for use later.<br />
I have bandiwdth restriction which slows these types of tricks down and I completely clear my cache every couple of hours if I am heavily using the net.</p>
<p>I also noticed that all the varanbles etc. are named Civony still and that there are multiple references to UMGE.<br />
Even a couple of folders are simply called UMGE, one of these folders contains one of the spyware programs.<br />
So I can only guess at where the data would end up if I didnt have a good firewall.</p>
<p>There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading this.</p>
<p>  Lee</p>
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		<title>By: I Think We Need a Futile Gesture &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/07/10/evony-and-irony-why-i-will-never-play-this-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15775</link>
		<dc:creator>I Think We Need a Futile Gesture &#171; The Ancient Gaming Noob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has been behaving&#8230; badly I guess would be the right term&#8230; with their game and ads and spam comments. They have even been declared an aspirant to the title &#8220;Most Hated Game on the Net&#8221; by [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been behaving&#8230; badly I guess would be the right term&#8230; with their game and ads and spam comments. They have even been declared an aspirant to the title &#8220;Most Hated Game on the Net&#8221; by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Play Now, My Lawyer! &#171; Broken Toys</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/07/10/evony-and-irony-why-i-will-never-play-this-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15719</link>
		<dc:creator>Play Now, My Lawyer! &#171; Broken Toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] them to use Age of Kings art assets in their game (which they deny), while it&#8217;s not fine for horrible mean bloggers to point out that Evony uses spam to advertise (which they [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] them to use Age of Kings art assets in their game (which they deny), while it&#8217;s not fine for horrible mean bloggers to point out that Evony uses spam to advertise (which they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually play Evony and it&#039;s pretty fun. It is addicting (sorta, but that&#039;s only if you really get it) and yes it is true that it was created by wowmine but I don&#039;t care :D I love the game. Oh and the e-mail adress i used IS real. Try talking to me sometime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually play Evony and it&#8217;s pretty fun. It is addicting (sorta, but that&#8217;s only if you really get it) and yes it is true that it was created by wowmine but I don&#8217;t care :D I love the game. Oh and the e-mail adress i used IS real. Try talking to me sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, that&#039;s a bunch of disgruntled players....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s a bunch of disgruntled players&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Evony critic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evony critic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=14896&amp;page=17 SEVENTEEN!!! pages worth of people complaining about evony and saying they are quiting, who wanna bet wif me how long it would take this game to go to the dogs...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=14896&#038;page=17" rel="nofollow">http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=14896&#038;page=17</a> SEVENTEEN!!! pages worth of people complaining about evony and saying they are quiting, who wanna bet wif me how long it would take this game to go to the dogs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Raymond SSC Security</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/07/10/evony-and-irony-why-i-will-never-play-this-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15305</link>
		<dc:creator>The Raymond SSC Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Game Evony is a big copyright fraud, it uses things from games like AGE of EMPIRES and use those resources to make money off of them, The thing they keep doing is that their ads are copyright frauds and so is the owners who I belive is hideing in China to escape lawsuite from Microsoft and others who Evony have been stealing from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Game Evony is a big copyright fraud, it uses things from games like AGE of EMPIRES and use those resources to make money off of them, The thing they keep doing is that their ads are copyright frauds and so is the owners who I belive is hideing in China to escape lawsuite from Microsoft and others who Evony have been stealing from.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing I have heard about the game since I started getting spammed leads me to believe there is any value to the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing I have heard about the game since I started getting spammed leads me to believe there is any value to the game.</p>
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