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	<title>Comments on: Runes of Magic claims 450,000 players</title>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/02/17/runes-of-magic-claims-450000-players/comment-page-1/#comment-12718</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be honest here people: these figures are not that impressive when compared with P2P titles.

&quot;I’m shocked a F2P has proven so successful in my lifetime.&quot;

Go and looks up player numbers for titles like Guild Wars (5,000,000) and RuneScape (5,000,000). Realise that this is simply a marketing. They are aware that they aren&#039;t the top F2P title out there but some inventive spin and partnerships with the right people mean they can twist things as much as they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest here people: these figures are not that impressive when compared with P2P titles.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m shocked a F2P has proven so successful in my lifetime.&#8221;</p>
<p>Go and looks up player numbers for titles like Guild Wars (5,000,000) and RuneScape (5,000,000). Realise that this is simply a marketing. They are aware that they aren&#8217;t the top F2P title out there but some inventive spin and partnerships with the right people mean they can twist things as much as they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank gawd someone finally pulled their heads out of the sand and dared do what WoW did in the first place-take the best elements of previous MMO&#039;s, and add their own.

Runes of Magic is so much more than a WoW clone.

The irony is that they love listening to the fanboys cry WoW Clone.  It&#039;s a tremendous compliment to the huge WoW fans that made RoM to hear their game compared to the biggest MMO out there.  And they don&#039;t need to hear anything else when there staring at a record number of subscribers to any F2P MMO.

And MMO players have spoken.  They prefer the new insanely popular, wildly growing Free2Play business model better than Pay2Play.

I&#039;m shocked a F2P has proven so successful in my lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank gawd someone finally pulled their heads out of the sand and dared do what WoW did in the first place-take the best elements of previous MMO&#8217;s, and add their own.</p>
<p>Runes of Magic is so much more than a WoW clone.</p>
<p>The irony is that they love listening to the fanboys cry WoW Clone.  It&#8217;s a tremendous compliment to the huge WoW fans that made RoM to hear their game compared to the biggest MMO out there.  And they don&#8217;t need to hear anything else when there staring at a record number of subscribers to any F2P MMO.</p>
<p>And MMO players have spoken.  They prefer the new insanely popular, wildly growing Free2Play business model better than Pay2Play.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m shocked a F2P has proven so successful in my lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea... I guess it would depend how much they liked Harry Potter; I imagine there would be a strong correlation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea&#8230; I guess it would depend how much they liked Harry Potter; I imagine there would be a strong correlation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2009/02/17/runes-of-magic-claims-450000-players/comment-page-1/#comment-12371</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, how do you think W101 would do in eastern markets(China/Taiwan/Japan/Korea)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, how do you think W101 would do in eastern markets(China/Taiwan/Japan/Korea)?</p>
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		<title>By: Sente</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taiwan, China, Singapore, Malaysia and Japan I think, in Asia.

On the Euro side there are 7 servers, 4 German and 3 English.  At least the server I play on have plenty of people in all zones I have been in so far and 3 instances of it running all the time. The majority of the players are probably in Asia. I will not be surprised if they increase the numbers quite a bit during the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taiwan, China, Singapore, Malaysia and Japan I think, in Asia.</p>
<p>On the Euro side there are 7 servers, 4 German and 3 English.  At least the server I play on have plenty of people in all zones I have been in so far and 3 instances of it running all the time. The majority of the players are probably in Asia. I will not be surprised if they increase the numbers quite a bit during the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Runes of Magic is also out in Taiwan, China and -- I dunno what other countries. Warhammer is still just NA and Europe, right? Eastern PvP games are way more hardcore than Western ones, I wonder how the East will react to a carebear PvP Western game. With contempt, I imagine, but I wouldn&#039;t mind being surprised. It&#039;s in all our best interests that non-WoW MMOs do well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Runes of Magic is also out in Taiwan, China and &#8212; I dunno what other countries. Warhammer is still just NA and Europe, right? Eastern PvP games are way more hardcore than Western ones, I wonder how the East will react to a carebear PvP Western game. With contempt, I imagine, but I wouldn&#8217;t mind being surprised. It&#8217;s in all our best interests that non-WoW MMOs do well.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey that makes it more popular than Warhammer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey that makes it more popular than Warhammer!</p>
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		<title>By: Openedge1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Openedge1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. Free games bring in tons of players. Then they offer services at a cost, and make their money that way. Or how about ads on your launcher...always a good idea..
So many ways this genre could do better monetarily, they just don&#039;t.
I think RoM is not a very good game at all, and the caveat &quot;You get what you pay for&quot; applies here. It does not mean that some cannot come along and take over this market completely (SOE, NCSoft).
All I can say is if you wish to copy (WAR) other famous MMO&#039;s (WoW), then offer it cheaper at least (LOTRO) or free for subbing (GW, W101) and RMT it to hell...

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Free games bring in tons of players. Then they offer services at a cost, and make their money that way. Or how about ads on your launcher&#8230;always a good idea..<br />
So many ways this genre could do better monetarily, they just don&#8217;t.<br />
I think RoM is not a very good game at all, and the caveat &#8220;You get what you pay for&#8221; applies here. It does not mean that some cannot come along and take over this market completely (SOE, NCSoft).<br />
All I can say is if you wish to copy (WAR) other famous MMO&#8217;s (WoW), then offer it cheaper at least (LOTRO) or free for subbing (GW, W101) and RMT it to hell&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Saylah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saylah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a healthy number and I wouldn&#039;t doubt it overly much.  The server I&#039;m on consistently has two instances of it.  The name has now been moved out of alpha order and placed at the bottom.  I assume that&#039;s to discourage people from continuing to create characters there.  I&#039;m never in a zone that is completely empty.  I do hope they can do something about the lag in the cities.  It&#039;s that EQ2 city lag that irks me.  Is that really the price that has to be paid for the more realistic graphics in more congested areas?  Hopefully someone will create a mod like there was for EQ2 where you could have preset graphics settings.  WAR tried to do it but there&#039;s behaved very wonky and counter intuitive.  Their UI design really paid the price for intentionally not copying other game features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a healthy number and I wouldn&#8217;t doubt it overly much.  The server I&#8217;m on consistently has two instances of it.  The name has now been moved out of alpha order and placed at the bottom.  I assume that&#8217;s to discourage people from continuing to create characters there.  I&#8217;m never in a zone that is completely empty.  I do hope they can do something about the lag in the cities.  It&#8217;s that EQ2 city lag that irks me.  Is that really the price that has to be paid for the more realistic graphics in more congested areas?  Hopefully someone will create a mod like there was for EQ2 where you could have preset graphics settings.  WAR tried to do it but there&#8217;s behaved very wonky and counter intuitive.  Their UI design really paid the price for intentionally not copying other game features.</p>
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