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	<title>Comments on: Vanguard noob experience: The Isle of Dawn</title>
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		<title>By: Winterdragon</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/09/15/vanguard-noob-experience-the-isle-of-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-17726</link>
		<dc:creator>Winterdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me the only times i use the direction keys for movement control is when using a ship and it is the only option and it doesn&#039;t work too bad there, the other time you have to use the direction arrows is in fishing, other than that i perfer to use the mouse to move, but you might try slowing down the key repeat speed on your laptop just a little and see if that helps.

I had been away from the game for over a year do to things outside the game getting in the way but since i have been back i have made 2 characters on the Isle of dawn, out of all the start areas in the game the isle is set up with everything you need to get to 10th in all 3 spheres, and the changes to the death penalty LOL it used to start at 6th lvl and low level characters didn&#039;t start seeing soulbound items till after 10th lvl so trying to get your corpse back without equipment is now a thing of the past. 

The elevator problem mentioned i didn&#039;t experience but did ride it up and down several times to help someone that couldn&#039;t figure the elevator out or had the parachutte effect on them , not sure as we did get her down eventually, but did notice what happened when i took the hit me express from the mission to tentrees (the guy standing on the roof of the mission) i landed in the middle of the river once because i had the parachutte effect active it really slows down movement.

As far as a there not being a story line, most the quest are story lines, you have a world made up of many races and cultures all story lines are going to be localized for the most part in the form of quest.

the use of /ooc hmmm didn&#039;t think there was a RP server so use of /ooc is a personal choice rather than a server requirement as far as i know they are open game format or normal format.

My main is a bard goes around high speed invisible with cloud walk on most the time when solo, stairs can be a trip, you slip side to side on stairs, ramps no pproblem stairs pretty much force you to turn that type of effect off lol and the tree city of cael brae is a hazzard to speedy people lol

I love the complexity of the game, easy games get boring too fast, went back on WoW to get my guy there from 70th to 80th had it in less than a week got bored pretty soon after that got a new video card and came back to vanguard. Plus all the inane chatter on the general channels in wow is enough to turn a person off to that game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me the only times i use the direction keys for movement control is when using a ship and it is the only option and it doesn&#8217;t work too bad there, the other time you have to use the direction arrows is in fishing, other than that i perfer to use the mouse to move, but you might try slowing down the key repeat speed on your laptop just a little and see if that helps.</p>
<p>I had been away from the game for over a year do to things outside the game getting in the way but since i have been back i have made 2 characters on the Isle of dawn, out of all the start areas in the game the isle is set up with everything you need to get to 10th in all 3 spheres, and the changes to the death penalty LOL it used to start at 6th lvl and low level characters didn&#8217;t start seeing soulbound items till after 10th lvl so trying to get your corpse back without equipment is now a thing of the past. </p>
<p>The elevator problem mentioned i didn&#8217;t experience but did ride it up and down several times to help someone that couldn&#8217;t figure the elevator out or had the parachutte effect on them , not sure as we did get her down eventually, but did notice what happened when i took the hit me express from the mission to tentrees (the guy standing on the roof of the mission) i landed in the middle of the river once because i had the parachutte effect active it really slows down movement.</p>
<p>As far as a there not being a story line, most the quest are story lines, you have a world made up of many races and cultures all story lines are going to be localized for the most part in the form of quest.</p>
<p>the use of /ooc hmmm didn&#8217;t think there was a RP server so use of /ooc is a personal choice rather than a server requirement as far as i know they are open game format or normal format.</p>
<p>My main is a bard goes around high speed invisible with cloud walk on most the time when solo, stairs can be a trip, you slip side to side on stairs, ramps no pproblem stairs pretty much force you to turn that type of effect off lol and the tree city of cael brae is a hazzard to speedy people lol</p>
<p>I love the complexity of the game, easy games get boring too fast, went back on WoW to get my guy there from 70th to 80th had it in less than a week got bored pretty soon after that got a new video card and came back to vanguard. Plus all the inane chatter on the general channels in wow is enough to turn a person off to that game.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/09/15/vanguard-noob-experience-the-isle-of-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-16571</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just started my free trial and I have to say I don&#039;t like it already. My biggest problem was right from the beginning with the controls. I have the turn control down to 50% but it still turns way too far whenever I press left or right on my keyboard. I&#039;m using a laptop, so mouse control is not the most convenient means of moving around for me. It makes following the direction indicator and hunting for quest mobs more difficult when turning always overshoots your target direction. Getting the character lined up to cross the bridges in the swamp was particularly tiresome.  Is there a way to turn it down below 50% so it doesn&#039;t turn in such large increments? This issue alone is really turning me off to this game to the point where I likely won&#039;t be signing up once the trial ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just started my free trial and I have to say I don&#8217;t like it already. My biggest problem was right from the beginning with the controls. I have the turn control down to 50% but it still turns way too far whenever I press left or right on my keyboard. I&#8217;m using a laptop, so mouse control is not the most convenient means of moving around for me. It makes following the direction indicator and hunting for quest mobs more difficult when turning always overshoots your target direction. Getting the character lined up to cross the bridges in the swamp was particularly tiresome.  Is there a way to turn it down below 50% so it doesn&#8217;t turn in such large increments? This issue alone is really turning me off to this game to the point where I likely won&#8217;t be signing up once the trial ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/09/15/vanguard-noob-experience-the-isle-of-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-10040</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I feel like such a maroon, now. But I had no idea what it was at the time, it was incredibly frustrating, and nobody seemed to know what to do to make it stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I feel like such a maroon, now. But I had no idea what it was at the time, it was incredibly frustrating, and nobody seemed to know what to do to make it stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;stuck&quot; thing is because you had the &quot;Parachute&quot; spell on from when the Flying mount wore off. Simply click it off and you will be on your way.</description>
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		<title>By: Maraek</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/09/15/vanguard-noob-experience-the-isle-of-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-9624</link>
		<dc:creator>Maraek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never run into the problem as drastically as the elevator out in greater Telon... but sometimes trying to run up a narrow stairway (some outpost buildings have narrow stairways that wind their way up to a second floor entrance, for example) while you have the parachute buff can be tricky - because the code keeps sliding you to the side (and you promptly fall off the stairway). So it&#039;s more of an issue to be aware of - remembering to turn off the parachute buff (and/or similar buffs like levitation).

In any case, I&#039;m glad you found the people to be friendly - I agree with you there for the most part (and I always try to be helpful myself in game, when I can).  There are always griefers in any game, but I&#039;ve seen very few while playing VG - generally the worst I get from people is being ignored (and there are lots of potential reasons for that... so I don&#039;t take it personally).  I&#039;m also sorry that you&#039;re having crash problems.  I can&#039;t remember having had any crash problems in the game itself for quite some time.  For a while I did crash whenever I was trying to /camp back to the character selection screen - but that seems to be related to another software program I had installed - namely OpenOffice (because once I uninstalled it that recurring crash disappeared).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never run into the problem as drastically as the elevator out in greater Telon&#8230; but sometimes trying to run up a narrow stairway (some outpost buildings have narrow stairways that wind their way up to a second floor entrance, for example) while you have the parachute buff can be tricky &#8211; because the code keeps sliding you to the side (and you promptly fall off the stairway). So it&#8217;s more of an issue to be aware of &#8211; remembering to turn off the parachute buff (and/or similar buffs like levitation).</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;m glad you found the people to be friendly &#8211; I agree with you there for the most part (and I always try to be helpful myself in game, when I can).  There are always griefers in any game, but I&#8217;ve seen very few while playing VG &#8211; generally the worst I get from people is being ignored (and there are lots of potential reasons for that&#8230; so I don&#8217;t take it personally).  I&#8217;m also sorry that you&#8217;re having crash problems.  I can&#8217;t remember having had any crash problems in the game itself for quite some time.  For a while I did crash whenever I was trying to /camp back to the character selection screen &#8211; but that seems to be related to another software program I had installed &#8211; namely OpenOffice (because once I uninstalled it that recurring crash disappeared).</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The person I was grouped with tried to use the /rope command to free me from the elevator, but that didn&#039;t work, and when he got stuck in turn, the stuck command was the only thing he could think of. I did ask, through /ooc, questions about how to do things quite often, and it was always answered quickly and there wasn&#039;t the sort of childish spam you see in a lot of other games.

The VG *players* are fantastic, I would never say differently.

The problem with the elevator was while going up, I would get stuck in some bars, and the constant up force of the elevator would prevent me from moving in any direction. Also, I was having some lag, so it would appear that I was hardly moving at all, then suddenly be trapped in the bars again. Going down wasn&#039;t usually a problem.

I&#039;m not familiar with the parachute buff, but that character has left the island now and hopefully won&#039;t encounter the problem in the wider game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person I was grouped with tried to use the /rope command to free me from the elevator, but that didn&#8217;t work, and when he got stuck in turn, the stuck command was the only thing he could think of. I did ask, through /ooc, questions about how to do things quite often, and it was always answered quickly and there wasn&#8217;t the sort of childish spam you see in a lot of other games.</p>
<p>The VG *players* are fantastic, I would never say differently.</p>
<p>The problem with the elevator was while going up, I would get stuck in some bars, and the constant up force of the elevator would prevent me from moving in any direction. Also, I was having some lag, so it would appear that I was hardly moving at all, then suddenly be trapped in the bars again. Going down wasn&#8217;t usually a problem.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with the parachute buff, but that character has left the island now and hopefully won&#8217;t encounter the problem in the wider game.</p>
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		<title>By: Maraek</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/09/15/vanguard-noob-experience-the-isle-of-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-9621</link>
		<dc:creator>Maraek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick question - you mentioned in the write up that there were lots of people around with previous Vanguard experience (through alts).  Other than grouping with some, did you ask any of them (whether in your group, or via /tell, /shout or even /say) for input on any of your issues?  I&#039;ve found the IoD community to be generally quite helpful.

For example, I think the main problem with the elevators in the Temple is that after you dismount from your pegasus you automatically get a &quot;parachute&quot; buff (which works like feather fall).  This is coded in so that if your mount timer runs out while you&#039;re in mid-flight you don&#039;t go splat on the ground hundreds of meters below.  Anyway, with the parachute buff on, your vertical movement (both up AND down) is slowed... and if something is trying to push you vertically faster than the buff wants you to go... (whether an elevator floor/ceiling, or even a staircase, for example) you will get shoved to one side or the other.  The easiest way to avoid this in the Temple is to turn off the parachute buff as soon as you land and go inside.

Some/many of your other issues may also have solutions like this, as well.  Anyway, I liked the writeup and hope you (and/or others) give VG another chance some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question &#8211; you mentioned in the write up that there were lots of people around with previous Vanguard experience (through alts).  Other than grouping with some, did you ask any of them (whether in your group, or via /tell, /shout or even /say) for input on any of your issues?  I&#8217;ve found the IoD community to be generally quite helpful.</p>
<p>For example, I think the main problem with the elevators in the Temple is that after you dismount from your pegasus you automatically get a &#8220;parachute&#8221; buff (which works like feather fall).  This is coded in so that if your mount timer runs out while you&#8217;re in mid-flight you don&#8217;t go splat on the ground hundreds of meters below.  Anyway, with the parachute buff on, your vertical movement (both up AND down) is slowed&#8230; and if something is trying to push you vertically faster than the buff wants you to go&#8230; (whether an elevator floor/ceiling, or even a staircase, for example) you will get shoved to one side or the other.  The easiest way to avoid this in the Temple is to turn off the parachute buff as soon as you land and go inside.</p>
<p>Some/many of your other issues may also have solutions like this, as well.  Anyway, I liked the writeup and hope you (and/or others) give VG another chance some day.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my previous Vanguard post had closeups of my two (now three) Vanguard characters. They look pretty decent. I don&#039;t have any issues with how the characters look, or how the landscape looks, but mostly the poor performance on my system and issues with some design choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my previous Vanguard post had closeups of my two (now three) Vanguard characters. They look pretty decent. I don&#8217;t have any issues with how the characters look, or how the landscape looks, but mostly the poor performance on my system and issues with some design choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/09/15/vanguard-noob-experience-the-isle-of-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-9610</link>
		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post was awesome. I was so ready for this when it came out to be MY NEXT EQ1. Argh. Do you have more updated shots of the new character models, close ups?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was awesome. I was so ready for this when it came out to be MY NEXT EQ1. Argh. Do you have more updated shots of the new character models, close ups?</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/09/15/vanguard-noob-experience-the-isle-of-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-9588</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really, but then I didn&#039;t expect to on the newbie isle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really, but then I didn&#8217;t expect to on the newbie isle.</p>
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