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	<title>Comments on: Trying and failing to care about WoW-like MMOs.</title>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/07/30/trying-and-failing-to-care-about-wow-like-mmos/comment-page-3/#comment-15499</link>
		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hoping my Sunday play group wants to do DDO after we finish NWN2 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hoping my Sunday play group wants to do DDO after we finish NWN2 :)</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/07/30/trying-and-failing-to-care-about-wow-like-mmos/comment-page-3/#comment-15496</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DDO goes free-to-play next month.  All of the &quot;All MMOs are just WoW-clones&quot; people, I&#039;m looking at you.  Combat is fast-paced and is sort of like a third-person shooter, and if your buddy is getting hit with arrows or whatever, you can stand in front of him to block them.  Quests actually feel like quests, and DDO has the best dungeons in the business.  If you like PVE and grouping and want something &quot;un-WoW,&quot; there you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DDO goes free-to-play next month.  All of the &#8220;All MMOs are just WoW-clones&#8221; people, I&#8217;m looking at you.  Combat is fast-paced and is sort of like a third-person shooter, and if your buddy is getting hit with arrows or whatever, you can stand in front of him to block them.  Quests actually feel like quests, and DDO has the best dungeons in the business.  If you like PVE and grouping and want something &#8220;un-WoW,&#8221; there you go.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I like W101 a lot, very fresh and new. Hence I have stopped playing it. Having come to Marleybone and done many of the quests there, I have decided to step back and save some content for release :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I like W101 a lot, very fresh and new. Hence I have stopped playing it. Having come to Marleybone and done many of the quests there, I have decided to step back and save some content for release :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy reading your blog Tipa, specifically because I also have found an attraction to Wizard101.  Although there is a leveling sequence and a level cap at 50, I don&#039;t find it quite WoW-like or grindy.  I agree with you, this is definiately because of the card-based combat.  I&#039;ve heard rumors from interviews posted online with the devs about them working on a PvP system that will be released after launch.  Although very different than your typical &#039;pvp&#039;, perhaps this could be what you are looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading your blog Tipa, specifically because I also have found an attraction to Wizard101.  Although there is a leveling sequence and a level cap at 50, I don&#8217;t find it quite WoW-like or grindy.  I agree with you, this is definiately because of the card-based combat.  I&#8217;ve heard rumors from interviews posted online with the devs about them working on a PvP system that will be released after launch.  Although very different than your typical &#8216;pvp&#8217;, perhaps this could be what you are looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Krabat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krabat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tipa: try GW and then please blog about it, I&#039;d like to see how do you like it. As a game it certainly beats WoW-likes. As a virtual environment, it&#039;s quite weak: it lacks mailing, auction house, etc, etc. Not being able to jump is strange but you get used to it. I&#039;d recommend to start with a more interesting profession like mesmer or necromancer. Mesmer is one of the most interesting classes in any game that I&#039;ve ever seen.

PvP and MMOs: I completely agree, the combination is unnatural. If you want to try your wits, you always have chess-like games. If you want to have fun, try an FPS. RTSs are somewhere in between.

... Currently I wish Metal Gear Solid 4 were available for PC ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tipa: try GW and then please blog about it, I&#8217;d like to see how do you like it. As a game it certainly beats WoW-likes. As a virtual environment, it&#8217;s quite weak: it lacks mailing, auction house, etc, etc. Not being able to jump is strange but you get used to it. I&#8217;d recommend to start with a more interesting profession like mesmer or necromancer. Mesmer is one of the most interesting classes in any game that I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
<p>PvP and MMOs: I completely agree, the combination is unnatural. If you want to try your wits, you always have chess-like games. If you want to have fun, try an FPS. RTSs are somewhere in between.</p>
<p>&#8230; Currently I wish Metal Gear Solid 4 were available for PC &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Openedge1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Openedge1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scott

DDO is also not an MMO as you say..
The issue is Turbine continues to treat it as one with the ridiculous monthly fee.

Remove that fee, and I would think about playing that game....maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott</p>
<p>DDO is also not an MMO as you say..<br />
The issue is Turbine continues to treat it as one with the ridiculous monthly fee.</p>
<p>Remove that fee, and I would think about playing that game&#8230;.maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Sejal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sejal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scott, its funny because I was just coming here to pass along the same information.. I wonder how long it will last this way.. Anyway... There&#039;s always Knighthood..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott, its funny because I was just coming here to pass along the same information.. I wonder how long it will last this way.. Anyway&#8230; There&#8217;s always Knighthood..</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sejal: Scrabulous is back and re-named to Wordscraper. A few changes to graphics and rules to keep Hasbro at bay, but it&#039;s back nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sejal: Scrabulous is back and re-named to Wordscraper. A few changes to graphics and rules to keep Hasbro at bay, but it&#8217;s back nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Sejal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sejal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@almagill.. There USED to always be Scrabble till Hasbro got their panties in a wad about Scrabulous on facebook *Sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@almagill.. There USED to always be Scrabble till Hasbro got their panties in a wad about Scrabulous on facebook *Sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: almagill</title>
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		<dc:creator>almagill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be something in the water.

Past couple of weeks I&#039;ve been finding it harder and harder to get up the enthusiasm to log into any of the MMOs I have here and instead have been playing console stuff (GTA IV, Battlefield: Bad Company and all the usual bang bang you&#039;re dead suspects.).

Ah well, there&#039;s always Scrabble...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be something in the water.</p>
<p>Past couple of weeks I&#8217;ve been finding it harder and harder to get up the enthusiasm to log into any of the MMOs I have here and instead have been playing console stuff (GTA IV, Battlefield: Bad Company and all the usual bang bang you&#8217;re dead suspects.).</p>
<p>Ah well, there&#8217;s always Scrabble&#8230;</p>
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