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		<title>By: Da Newz - May 15 &#171; Waaagh! A Warhammer Online Blog</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/05/12/sitting-this-one-out/comment-page-2/#comment-7254</link>
		<dc:creator>Da Newz - May 15 &#171; Waaagh! A Warhammer Online Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lich King info, doom &#8216;n gloom pronouncement for WAR&#8217;s future have been stirred anew. West Karana declares that she will &#8220;sit this one out&#8221; when it comes to this year&#8217;s major [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lich King info, doom &#8216;n gloom pronouncement for WAR&#8217;s future have been stirred anew. West Karana declares that she will &#8220;sit this one out&#8221; when it comes to this year&#8217;s major [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rmckee78</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/05/12/sitting-this-one-out/comment-page-2/#comment-7253</link>
		<dc:creator>rmckee78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,
You are looking forward to CoS and Champions. That doesn&#039;t make you a relic, it makes you ahead of your time

I think the reason we are not hearing more about GW2 is that it is in that awkward time between the announcement and stuff being ready to look at in motion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
You are looking forward to CoS and Champions. That doesn&#8217;t make you a relic, it makes you ahead of your time</p>
<p>I think the reason we are not hearing more about GW2 is that it is in that awkward time between the announcement and stuff being ready to look at in motion.</p>
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		<title>By: redrinn</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/05/12/sitting-this-one-out/comment-page-2/#comment-7238</link>
		<dc:creator>redrinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well funny coincendence...the Massively podcast had a few mentions of Guild Wars and GW2. Nothing new, but that its still in the minds of noted MMO afficianados is a plus. The only thing officially that Ive ever found is the Wiki. Even the GW2 website refers to it. I imagine its going to be a late 2009 release at this point, since they are starting basically a new MMO design, with maybe 2yrs into it so far?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well funny coincendence&#8230;the Massively podcast had a few mentions of Guild Wars and GW2. Nothing new, but that its still in the minds of noted MMO afficianados is a plus. The only thing officially that Ive ever found is the Wiki. Even the GW2 website refers to it. I imagine its going to be a late 2009 release at this point, since they are starting basically a new MMO design, with maybe 2yrs into it so far?</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what intrigues me about Champions Online and Chronicles of Spellborn. Both will offer extreme character customization, and Spellborn is doing something breathtakingly new with combat that goes way beyond Age of Conan and Guild Wars.

@redrinn -- good question about GW2. I hate to toot Massively&#039;s horn, but they have so many people looking for news items and scoops that if there is anything new, it&#039;d show up there. The site can be a firehose at times with so much stuff all the time, but any MMO news usually ends up there sooner or later. I&#039;ll do some digging on my own :) I played GW in beta, but never got into it enough to really appreciate it. The later GW expansions look fantastic, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what intrigues me about Champions Online and Chronicles of Spellborn. Both will offer extreme character customization, and Spellborn is doing something breathtakingly new with combat that goes way beyond Age of Conan and Guild Wars.</p>
<p>@redrinn &#8212; good question about GW2. I hate to toot Massively&#8217;s horn, but they have so many people looking for news items and scoops that if there is anything new, it&#8217;d show up there. The site can be a firehose at times with so much stuff all the time, but any MMO news usually ends up there sooner or later. I&#8217;ll do some digging on my own :) I played GW in beta, but never got into it enough to really appreciate it. The later GW expansions look fantastic, though.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/05/12/sitting-this-one-out/comment-page-2/#comment-7227</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grimjack I agree. I think the best thing that could happen to MMO gaming is for several reasonably successful titles to each suck away some of the fat from wow.  Then maybe a little healthy innovative competition could commence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grimjack I agree. I think the best thing that could happen to MMO gaming is for several reasonably successful titles to each suck away some of the fat from wow.  Then maybe a little healthy innovative competition could commence.</p>
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		<title>By: Grimjakk</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/05/12/sitting-this-one-out/comment-page-1/#comment-7224</link>
		<dc:creator>Grimjakk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t count out WAR too quickly... with Warhammer, Mythic has an MMORPG IP some of us have been waiting for... well, since before MMORPG&#039;s really.  

I&#039;ve played DAOC since release (it was the game that broke my EQ addiction) and although Mythic has screwed up royally on occasion (Trials of Atlantis) -- they&#039;ve always realized it, admitted it publicly, and tried to correct it (Classic servers).  IP isn&#039;t everything, but from what I&#039;ve seen of the gameplay, they&#039;re fully aware of that too.

And they&#039;ve never claimed to be a WoW killer.  A game doesn&#039;t need 9 million subscribers to be considered successful. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t count out WAR too quickly&#8230; with Warhammer, Mythic has an MMORPG IP some of us have been waiting for&#8230; well, since before MMORPG&#8217;s really.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve played DAOC since release (it was the game that broke my EQ addiction) and although Mythic has screwed up royally on occasion (Trials of Atlantis) &#8212; they&#8217;ve always realized it, admitted it publicly, and tried to correct it (Classic servers).  IP isn&#8217;t everything, but from what I&#8217;ve seen of the gameplay, they&#8217;re fully aware of that too.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;ve never claimed to be a WoW killer.  A game doesn&#8217;t need 9 million subscribers to be considered successful. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! Looking forward to reading about your Hyborean adventures!!</description>
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		<title>By: Openedge1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Openedge1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am making the plunge, and for the first time will be playing two MMO&#039;s. I always get my feet wet, and play around in other MMO&#039;s...but none have kept me.

Lately (ok 8 months now) EQ2 has been the first game I consistently WANT to play (and not marathon or play to finish...ALA Guild Wars or WoW)...I actually enjoy playing the game..exploring, doing various things from writs to shinies to lore and legends...and of course quests and crafting

But, I am one of the AoC beta players who found the game refreshing and new, and gorgeous to look at (much better than LOTRO or Vanguard)...I had zero issues (except the loads at first, which I tweaked away) with no crashes and found a quite stable game...
I am also a console gamer, and felt some of that gamestyle...very Jade Empire regarding combat, and it is WAY more than a button masher, very Halo-esque in the run and gun playstyles...
The feat tree&#039;s are great...just like Diablo and WoW
Spend points in bonus items like a Baldurs Gate console version...for healing, perception, stealth (all players can hide if shadows are around, but you have to put &quot;skill&quot; points into it...AWESOME.

Also everyone keeps going on about the PvP when it also has PvE that is quite fun, as the mob AI is different...if you pull a mob, and another is close by, they will alert that mob...so strategy is more involved here....

And with cutscenes dialog and not the standard click ok through the wall of text to hit ok for your quest...it is more immersive as well.

The game will be good...once everyone gets past the &quot;oh cool...bewbies and blood&quot;...(which I need to note...the whole week of Open Beta...I saw a total of 2 people with their shirts off...I expected WAY more than that...)...and tries to see the overall picture of the setting...how they are approaching the lore...

Yup..I officially have become a 2 MMO kinda guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am making the plunge, and for the first time will be playing two MMO&#8217;s. I always get my feet wet, and play around in other MMO&#8217;s&#8230;but none have kept me.</p>
<p>Lately (ok 8 months now) EQ2 has been the first game I consistently WANT to play (and not marathon or play to finish&#8230;ALA Guild Wars or WoW)&#8230;I actually enjoy playing the game..exploring, doing various things from writs to shinies to lore and legends&#8230;and of course quests and crafting</p>
<p>But, I am one of the AoC beta players who found the game refreshing and new, and gorgeous to look at (much better than LOTRO or Vanguard)&#8230;I had zero issues (except the loads at first, which I tweaked away) with no crashes and found a quite stable game&#8230;<br />
I am also a console gamer, and felt some of that gamestyle&#8230;very Jade Empire regarding combat, and it is WAY more than a button masher, very Halo-esque in the run and gun playstyles&#8230;<br />
The feat tree&#8217;s are great&#8230;just like Diablo and WoW<br />
Spend points in bonus items like a Baldurs Gate console version&#8230;for healing, perception, stealth (all players can hide if shadows are around, but you have to put &#8220;skill&#8221; points into it&#8230;AWESOME.</p>
<p>Also everyone keeps going on about the PvP when it also has PvE that is quite fun, as the mob AI is different&#8230;if you pull a mob, and another is close by, they will alert that mob&#8230;so strategy is more involved here&#8230;.</p>
<p>And with cutscenes dialog and not the standard click ok through the wall of text to hit ok for your quest&#8230;it is more immersive as well.</p>
<p>The game will be good&#8230;once everyone gets past the &#8220;oh cool&#8230;bewbies and blood&#8221;&#8230;(which I need to note&#8230;the whole week of Open Beta&#8230;I saw a total of 2 people with their shirts off&#8230;I expected WAY more than that&#8230;)&#8230;and tries to see the overall picture of the setting&#8230;how they are approaching the lore&#8230;</p>
<p>Yup..I officially have become a 2 MMO kinda guy</p>
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		<title>By: redrinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>redrinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I loved DR… until I tried Mythos for the first time.&quot;

Well glad to hear that. I wonder how many people gave DR a try. Its a fun game, addicting with the frantic amount of monsters to kill, and lots of loooot : )

But if Mythos grabbed you even more, then I can&#039;t wait!

And is there any explanation for the very little news on GW2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I loved DR… until I tried Mythos for the first time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well glad to hear that. I wonder how many people gave DR a try. Its a fun game, addicting with the frantic amount of monsters to kill, and lots of loooot : )</p>
<p>But if Mythos grabbed you even more, then I can&#8217;t wait!</p>
<p>And is there any explanation for the very little news on GW2?</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam -- you&#039;re describing Lord of the Rings Online. While it has done fairly well, it hasn&#039;t got anything like WoW&#039;s numbers. WoW was the first real MMO for a lot of people. It is always hard to leave your first game, and I frankly think  that whenever WotLK does come out, that you&#039;ll hear a lot of rushing air from other games as the WoW players rush back at top speed.

@Bryzon -- well, EQ1 was my first real MMO, and now that I am moving back and forth between the two EQs, am pretty happy where I&#039;m at. I do wonder if I&#039;ll ever be able to move seriously to another game. WoW came closest of them all, but my disappointment with the community killed my enjoyment of the game. 

@Rick -- I really think we&#039;re approaching a cusp point. There&#039;s a lot of new technologies around, and new ideas. We&#039;re not bored with MMO gaming, just the sort of cookie-cutter games with grinding and levels that seem to be content only with minor variations on a withered theme.

@redrinn -- while both Mythos and DR are superficially based on D2 gameplay, they have done very different things with it. I loved DR... until I tried Mythos for the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam &#8212; you&#8217;re describing Lord of the Rings Online. While it has done fairly well, it hasn&#8217;t got anything like WoW&#8217;s numbers. WoW was the first real MMO for a lot of people. It is always hard to leave your first game, and I frankly think  that whenever WotLK does come out, that you&#8217;ll hear a lot of rushing air from other games as the WoW players rush back at top speed.</p>
<p>@Bryzon &#8212; well, EQ1 was my first real MMO, and now that I am moving back and forth between the two EQs, am pretty happy where I&#8217;m at. I do wonder if I&#8217;ll ever be able to move seriously to another game. WoW came closest of them all, but my disappointment with the community killed my enjoyment of the game. </p>
<p>@Rick &#8212; I really think we&#8217;re approaching a cusp point. There&#8217;s a lot of new technologies around, and new ideas. We&#8217;re not bored with MMO gaming, just the sort of cookie-cutter games with grinding and levels that seem to be content only with minor variations on a withered theme.</p>
<p>@redrinn &#8212; while both Mythos and DR are superficially based on D2 gameplay, they have done very different things with it. I loved DR&#8230; until I tried Mythos for the first time.</p>
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