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	<title>Comments on: EQ: The Serpent Spine and Why I Hate the Grind</title>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gran!

Well, I mostly moved to Luclin server so it&#039;s hard to see which of the old EQ1 people are still playing so I can say hello :) But HI!!!!</description>
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<p>Well, I mostly moved to Luclin server so it&#8217;s hard to see which of the old EQ1 people are still playing so I can say hello :) But HI!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Granamir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Granamir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Tipa your back and did not even send a hello tell?
Been a while and I got a good laugh on your blog.
I guess I will just have to take the time and hunt you down. :)
I never left, and  am still here chugging along.

At least shoot me a tell sometime.

Granamir , </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Tipa your back and did not even send a hello tell?<br />
Been a while and I got a good laugh on your blog.<br />
I guess I will just have to take the time and hunt you down. :)<br />
I never left, and  am still here chugging along.</p>
<p>At least shoot me a tell sometime.</p>
<p>Granamir ,</p>
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		<title>By: QuimbiusStormfyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>QuimbiusStormfyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh ya if you buy sof you get all of the previous expansions too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh ya if you buy sof you get all of the previous expansions too</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check your email, O Pasty One.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check your email, O Pasty One.</p>
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		<title>By: QuimbiusStormfyre</title>
		<link>http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/04/13/eq-the-serpent-spine-and-why-i-hate-the-grind/comment-page-1/#comment-6668</link>
		<dc:creator>QuimbiusStormfyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Groups are still not easy to find even for a lvl 80 wizard. Ill group witth you Tipa,N ina or whoever you want to bring along.  Secrets of Fatderk is a fun expansion btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Groups are still not easy to find even for a lvl 80 wizard. Ill group witth you Tipa,N ina or whoever you want to bring along.  Secrets of Fatderk is a fun expansion btw.</p>
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		<title>By: MmoQuests.com Â» Ding 27! (IRL Omg..)</title>
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		<dc:creator>MmoQuests.com Â» Ding 27! (IRL Omg..)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] busy life, but hey, nothing is perfect. I&#8217;d been contemplating Eq1 some, of course due to Tipa&#8217;s posts over at West Karana, but alas can&#8217;t bring myself to install the game. I haven&#8217;t bought any expansions since [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] busy life, but hey, nothing is perfect. I&#8217;d been contemplating Eq1 some, of course due to Tipa&#8217;s posts over at West Karana, but alas can&#8217;t bring myself to install the game. I haven&#8217;t bought any expansions since [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Einhorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Einhorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really miss EQ1 a little too often for my own comfort. I never really raided anything, that is to say I never did enough to be considered a &quot;raider&quot;. My guild was smallish, and the best thing we could do was probably Grieg&#039;s End. It didn&#039;t matter though, because my guild was all about friendship, and helping each other out. So even though we didn&#039;t do much, we had a lot of fun anyway.

I used to love when we&#039;d raid Plane of Hate. Every Wednesday we&#039;d go in there and basically kill trash for the named. We couldn&#039;t do any of the &quot;bosses&quot;, and by bosses I mean starting with Maestro (which just added to my intrigue about him). The best part was the conversations we&#039;d have, and the fact that a rogue tanked for us who wasn&#039;t even in our guild. His gear was all Time stuff, so his AC and hate-gain was just universes away from our MT. We picked him up ONE TIME in there because he was bored, and he loved the cheeriness of our guild so much that he and asked us to let him know any time we did it and he&#039;d come tank it again. He couldn&#039;t stop saying how much fun he had with us.

Mostly I just miss the &quot;unknown&quot; feeling that Tipa mentioned once before. EQ1 was huge, and the quests were never obvious. Someone was either trying to urge you on a secret mission or just chewing the fat, and you&#039;d never be able to tell because &quot;maybe I typed it wrong, maybe I need to say it another way, did I spell it right?&quot;. The game was rife with mystery, and no matter where I was I always felt lost and immersed in the world.

God I miss that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really miss EQ1 a little too often for my own comfort. I never really raided anything, that is to say I never did enough to be considered a &#8220;raider&#8221;. My guild was smallish, and the best thing we could do was probably Grieg&#8217;s End. It didn&#8217;t matter though, because my guild was all about friendship, and helping each other out. So even though we didn&#8217;t do much, we had a lot of fun anyway.</p>
<p>I used to love when we&#8217;d raid Plane of Hate. Every Wednesday we&#8217;d go in there and basically kill trash for the named. We couldn&#8217;t do any of the &#8220;bosses&#8221;, and by bosses I mean starting with Maestro (which just added to my intrigue about him). The best part was the conversations we&#8217;d have, and the fact that a rogue tanked for us who wasn&#8217;t even in our guild. His gear was all Time stuff, so his AC and hate-gain was just universes away from our MT. We picked him up ONE TIME in there because he was bored, and he loved the cheeriness of our guild so much that he and asked us to let him know any time we did it and he&#8217;d come tank it again. He couldn&#8217;t stop saying how much fun he had with us.</p>
<p>Mostly I just miss the &#8220;unknown&#8221; feeling that Tipa mentioned once before. EQ1 was huge, and the quests were never obvious. Someone was either trying to urge you on a secret mission or just chewing the fat, and you&#8217;d never be able to tell because &#8220;maybe I typed it wrong, maybe I need to say it another way, did I spell it right?&#8221;. The game was rife with mystery, and no matter where I was I always felt lost and immersed in the world.</p>
<p>God I miss that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tipa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not tired of EQ2 :) Just my preferred playstyle is grouping with friends. EQ2 is still a great game. On that note, it&#039;s not like I can ever find even one group in EQ1, so that&#039;s unlikely to grab much of my time. Being unable to find groups in EQ1 was the reason I left. Even a grind is fine, if it&#039;s with friends. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t consider my time leveling three characters in EQ1 a grind -- they were done with friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not tired of EQ2 :) Just my preferred playstyle is grouping with friends. EQ2 is still a great game. On that note, it&#8217;s not like I can ever find even one group in EQ1, so that&#8217;s unlikely to grab much of my time. Being unable to find groups in EQ1 was the reason I left. Even a grind is fine, if it&#8217;s with friends. That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t consider my time leveling three characters in EQ1 a grind &#8212; they were done with friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Crookshankz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crookshankz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tipa&#039;s getting tired of EQ2...the terrorist win</description>
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		<title>By: Egat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Egat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EQ1 grind will always be there to some degree I suspect.

We anticipate the patch changing the AA gaining curve to go live very shortly, it&#039;s on test now.  I&#039;m looking forward to that!

Additionally, they are removing zone key/flagging requirements for PoR and earlier expansions and making them level based, which should also make things easier for new or returning players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EQ1 grind will always be there to some degree I suspect.</p>
<p>We anticipate the patch changing the AA gaining curve to go live very shortly, it&#8217;s on test now.  I&#8217;m looking forward to that!</p>
<p>Additionally, they are removing zone key/flagging requirements for PoR and earlier expansions and making them level based, which should also make things easier for new or returning players.</p>
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