Comments on: A very, very long look at Vanguard http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/ A blog about EverQuest, EverQuest II and MMORPGs in general Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:59:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Arboris http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-6369 Arboris Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:40:13 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-6369 Sorry for the late reply, but this is something that I found while googling, and I've similar experiences with Vanguard. I started playing 5 days ago, so I'm a newbie as well. I was lucky to have some friends in-game already, but most of the stuff I had to discover myself. And, as a bard, it was quite easy to get through the first levels. The community isn't that bad, but that's maybe because I found myself a nice and good guild ;) I also agree with your statement about the resemblence with DAoC; I used to be a minstrel in DAoC, and playing a bard is almost the same: a direct damage spell, mezz (flute), speed (drums) and healing (lute). I think in Vanguard, bards also get stealth, and a charm. And some combat abilities with medium armor... What bothers me the most is the end-game. When you played DAoC, you had RvR. In WoW, there was raiding, and some pvp. I'm still wondering what the end-game of VG is. My friend said to me that there were dungeons, and when you were lv 50, you could raise your craft or diplomacy to 50 as well. This doesn't seem to be enough to keep players attracted to the game. Sorry for the late reply, but this is something that I found while googling, and I’ve similar experiences with Vanguard. I started playing 5 days ago, so I’m a newbie as well.
I was lucky to have some friends in-game already, but most of the stuff I had to discover myself. And, as a bard, it was quite easy to get through the first levels. The community isn’t that bad, but that’s maybe because I found myself a nice and good guild ;)
I also agree with your statement about the resemblence with DAoC; I used to be a minstrel in DAoC, and playing a bard is almost the same: a direct damage spell, mezz (flute), speed (drums) and healing (lute). I think in Vanguard, bards also get stealth, and a charm. And some combat abilities with medium armor…
What bothers me the most is the end-game. When you played DAoC, you had RvR. In WoW, there was raiding, and some pvp. I’m still wondering what the end-game of VG is. My friend said to me that there were dungeons, and when you were lv 50, you could raise your craft or diplomacy to 50 as well. This doesn’t seem to be enough to keep players attracted to the game.

]]> By: Tipa http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-6031 Tipa Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:35:28 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-6031 Hmmm are you certain the VG you buy off eBay will be an unopened box with a valid key? Call me dubious of buying previously owned subscription-based games off eBay. I definitely would NOT buy it by download. You'll be downloading it for the next week. Huge? Yeah, kinda. Hmmm are you certain the VG you buy off eBay will be an unopened box with a valid key?

Call me dubious of buying previously owned subscription-based games off eBay.

I definitely would NOT buy it by download. You’ll be downloading it for the next week. Huge? Yeah, kinda.

]]> By: Openedge1 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-6029 Openedge1 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:31:57 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-6029 Okey doke...I had tried to grab a copy from Ebay...but, someone one click swindled it from under me with 5 secs to spare...sometimes just hate Ebay... But, I do not want to put a big payment into it..and so far it still sells expensively at the shops locally or...cannot find at all. Direct 2 drive sells it for 40...and I am not willing to pay that when I can get it for 9 on Ebay...lol So..looks like my "misadventures" have already begun..next blog post... "The saga of the VG purchase..."...which should lead to part 2 "To hell and back...or how I learned to patch the VG" Thanks Okey doke…I had tried to grab a copy from Ebay…but, someone one click swindled it from under me with 5 secs to spare…sometimes just hate Ebay…
But, I do not want to put a big payment into it..and so far it still sells expensively at the shops locally or…cannot find at all. Direct 2 drive sells it for 40…and I am not willing to pay that when I can get it for 9 on Ebay…lol
So..looks like my “misadventures” have already begun..next blog post…

“The saga of the VG purchase…”…which should lead to part 2
“To hell and back…or how I learned to patch the VG”

Thanks

]]> By: Caliga http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-5923 Caliga Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:48:11 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-5923 Good to hear Tipa. And Openedge, give it a try :) GU4 is live and that should make for some easier travel, particularly with the rift system. And we now have helms, something players have been complaining the absence of for ages, only to now complain about the helms themselves. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Good to hear Tipa. And Openedge, give it a try :)

GU4 is live and that should make for some easier travel, particularly with the rift system. And we now have helms, something players have been complaining the absence of for ages, only to now complain about the helms themselves. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

]]> By: Tipa http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-5913 Tipa Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:31:59 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-5913 I do plan to continue playing. It's more fun than Pirates of the Burning Sea, a game I wanted to like but just got too grindy. Of course, VG may well get too grindy as well. I hate teh grind. Grind makes me quit games. I did grind in EQ2 to level to 80, but I didn't enjoy it. I was motivated by the opportunity to join a good raid guild. I'm also working on a new project I just started, so that's taken some of my free time from MMOs, but I think I'll be playing VG on the weekends until I know if it's a good game or not. I will say that it's far better than my first and second impressions led me to believe. I do plan to continue playing. It’s more fun than Pirates of the Burning Sea, a game I wanted to like but just got too grindy. Of course, VG may well get too grindy as well. I hate teh grind. Grind makes me quit games. I did grind in EQ2 to level to 80, but I didn’t enjoy it. I was motivated by the opportunity to join a good raid guild.

I’m also working on a new project I just started, so that’s taken some of my free time from MMOs, but I think I’ll be playing VG on the weekends until I know if it’s a good game or not.

I will say that it’s far better than my first and second impressions led me to believe.

]]> By: João Carlos http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-5910 João Carlos Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:49:58 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-5910 GU4 was today, 3/11 GU4 was today, 3/11

]]> By: Openedge1 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-5909 Openedge1 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:42:23 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-5909 NOOoooo.... I started reading and and thought "Tipa will sell the game to me..." Or not And now I am like "Maybe I should wait til GU4" This was awesome to see how someone who is familiar with EQ2 and EQ would feel about Vanguard... Maybe I should join "strictly" to write about my misadventures.... I am not an EQ alum, and have only played EQ2 for 7 months. If what you say is true, it could be a good chance for someone who has not played this type of game (harsher penalties, more investigative) to point out what the game is like... I am no MMO expert, but feel I understand the genre enough to write my blogging adventures for others to see...and maybe see if SOE has made progress.... I will make sure to come back and see if you have more to say (i.e: do you at least plan to play some more?) Thanks NOOoooo….

I started reading and and thought “Tipa will sell the game to me…”

Or not

And now I am like
“Maybe I should wait til GU4″

This was awesome to see how someone who is familiar with EQ2 and EQ would feel about Vanguard…
Maybe I should join “strictly” to write about my misadventures….
I am not an EQ alum, and have only played EQ2 for 7 months. If what you say is true, it could be a good chance for someone who has not played this type of game (harsher penalties, more investigative) to point out what the game is like…
I am no MMO expert, but feel I understand the genre enough to write my blogging adventures for others to see…and maybe see if SOE has made progress….

I will make sure to come back and see if you have more to say (i.e: do you at least plan to play some more?)

Thanks

]]> By: Caliga http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-5897 Caliga Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:29:22 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-5897 Ah, look me up then, I'm on Seradon also. Name's Regalus. Ah, look me up then, I’m on Seradon also. Name’s Regalus.

]]> By: Tipa http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-5896 Tipa Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:32:02 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-5896 Seradon, same as Satia. Seradon, same as Satia.

]]> By: Noffin http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/comment-page-1/#comment-5895 Noffin Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:03:38 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/03/10/a-very-very-long-look-at-vanguard/#comment-5895 What server was you playing on??? I still have my cleric lingering somewhere on Xeth. What server was you playing on??? I still have my cleric lingering somewhere on Xeth.

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