Comments on: Jericho, Lost, American Idol and my first DoG raid on EQ2 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/ A blog about EverQuest, EverQuest II and MMORPGs in general Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:59:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lishian http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5403 Lishian Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:02:20 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5403 @stargrace I was on the PVP server @stargrace
I was on the PVP server

]]> By: Tiv http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5393 Tiv Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:15:25 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5393 my gf would kill me if i rerolled again in Eq2 LOL. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone, what a nice crowd you have here :) my gf would kill me if i rerolled again in Eq2 LOL. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone, what a nice crowd you have here :)

]]> By: Tipa http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5392 Tipa Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:31:48 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5392 Perhaps == and you know my email if you can snag another beta invite for me, Genda. Tiv, though, is looking for a raid-oriented PvE game, and we're all hoping Warhammer will be a RvR-oriented PvP game, pretty much its opposite. Vanguard only has one raid -- though by the time you leveled to raid level, they might have more. Back at Fanguard, they were talking about bunches, so they've always been in the plans. EQ1 is built around raiding, but I'm pretty sure nobody raids Trak or VS, for instance, any more. Or VP. Or PoP or PoTime, probably. I see T6 raids all the time, though, in EQ2, and I even saw a T5 raid (Venekor in CT) awhile back. T7 raids are very common, even in pickup raids, as are tier 1 RoK raids -- so for PvE and raiding, I don't think you can do better than EQ2 *at the moment*. You might consider that you like the game but not your class, and that's very common. Out of 24 different classes, it's hard to find the one that matches your playstyle best. They all are so different. Perhaps == and you know my email if you can snag another beta invite for me, Genda. Tiv, though, is looking for a raid-oriented PvE game, and we’re all hoping Warhammer will be a RvR-oriented PvP game, pretty much its opposite.

Vanguard only has one raid — though by the time you leveled to raid level, they might have more. Back at Fanguard, they were talking about bunches, so they’ve always been in the plans.

EQ1 is built around raiding, but I’m pretty sure nobody raids Trak or VS, for instance, any more. Or VP. Or PoP or PoTime, probably.

I see T6 raids all the time, though, in EQ2, and I even saw a T5 raid (Venekor in CT) awhile back. T7 raids are very common, even in pickup raids, as are tier 1 RoK raids — so for PvE and raiding, I don’t think you can do better than EQ2 *at the moment*. You might consider that you like the game but not your class, and that’s very common. Out of 24 different classes, it’s hard to find the one that matches your playstyle best. They all are so different.

]]> By: Genda http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5391 Genda Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:10:23 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5391 @Tiv- Warhammer is nothing like WOW, other than it's an MMO. Don't discard a possibility just because the visuals seem similar. There are very very few similarities between WOW and WAR. I can't really say more than that or risk messing up my NDA, but trust me. Different. @Tiv-

Warhammer is nothing like WOW, other than it’s an MMO. Don’t discard a possibility just because the visuals seem similar. There are very very few similarities between WOW and WAR. I can’t really say more than that or risk messing up my NDA, but trust me. Different.

]]> By: Tiv http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5390 Tiv Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:34:26 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5390 my GF and I watch law and order repeats over and over and over and.... @Above Lishian: I really have no interest in AoC or Warhammer. I have a friend in AoC beta for a long time now and has not said a single good thing about it. On the flip side this same friend was also an early Vanguard tester and is now the friend trying to get me to play EQ1 again with him. Some habits never die :P And Warhammer looks too WarCraftish for my tastes. Don't get me wrong, WoW was a great game with incredible release polish. Heck I played for nearly 2 years. I'm just looking for something PvE and hopefully raid focused. My issue with EQ2 so far is that I've enjoyed the game, I like the game, but I can't seem to get passionate about my character. I have hope that I could, and I enjoy the game enough to keep going.. but my curiosity for the other 2 games is making me wonder far too much. It's hard to enjoy an MMO game without a character to call home. my GF and I watch law and order repeats over and over and over and….
@Above Lishian: I really have no interest in AoC or Warhammer. I have a friend in AoC beta for a long time now and has not said a single good thing about it. On the flip side this same friend was also an early Vanguard tester and is now the friend trying to get me to play EQ1 again with him. Some habits never die :P And Warhammer looks too WarCraftish for my tastes. Don’t get me wrong, WoW was a great game with incredible release polish. Heck I played for nearly 2 years. I’m just looking for something PvE and hopefully raid focused. My issue with EQ2 so far is that I’ve enjoyed the game, I like the game, but I can’t seem to get passionate about my character. I have hope that I could, and I enjoy the game enough to keep going.. but my curiosity for the other 2 games is making me wonder far too much.
It’s hard to enjoy an MMO game without a character to call home.

]]> By: Tipa http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5389 Tipa Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:24:55 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5389 Oh, that was them? The place they had to send ten people to as hostages. Well, will try to catch up tonight. Oh, that was them? The place they had to send ten people to as hostages. Well, will try to catch up tonight.

]]> By: Relmstein http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5388 Relmstein Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:12:03 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5388 I downloaded season 1 of Jericho and was able to watch it all in a row a couple of months ago so I was luckily up to date on the New Bern plot line. Basically its a town that Jericho traded with for windmill turbines. They got jealous over how much food Jericho had so they basically decide to go start making mortars/weapons and take their stuff. It reminded a lot about how states had to be stopped from going to war with one another before their was a strong federal government. The ratings were not good. It got beat by a repeat of Law and Order. I sometime really wonder if the nielsen ratings are horrible broken and if there is anyway to prove it. http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/02/13/nielsen-ratings-tue-feb-12-all-hail-jericho/2658 I downloaded season 1 of Jericho and was able to watch it all in a row a couple of months ago so I was luckily up to date on the New Bern plot line. Basically its a town that Jericho traded with for windmill turbines. They got jealous over how much food Jericho had so they basically decide to go start making mortars/weapons and take their stuff. It reminded a lot about how states had to be stopped from going to war with one another before their was a strong federal government.

The ratings were not good. It got beat by a repeat of Law and Order. I sometime really wonder if the nielsen ratings are horrible broken and if there is anyway to prove it.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/02/13/nielsen-ratings-tue-feb-12-all-hail-jericho/2658

]]> By: Tipa http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5385 Tipa Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:32:05 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5385 Relm: It more means I'm getting more exclusive about the guilds I consider. There's plenty of non-raiding, casual raiding, or lower level raiding guilds in EQ2, that will take any character you want to play and fill their occasional raids with pickup raiders. But since I was in Veeshan's Peak with Clan of Shadows, I wanted to continue there. And the guilds who are in VP or close to it at this time are looking for people who can contribute greatly. Raiding guilds always need healers, I just refuse to play mine as my main. I can't afford the time to make Dera raid-ready, and I won't give Dina up. You can still play EQ2 and see nearly everything without raiding; and you can get excellent kick-butt instance gear and your epic without even one raid. Veeshan's Peak is the only locked zone in all of Rise of Kunark -- the original EQ locked Sebilis and Howling Stones as well. Read Random-Battle today where Cameron gushes about an add-on that goes through your quest log and automatically makes little ant-trails on your map to show you which way to go to do your quests and places big arrows explaining what to do when you get there. EQ2 is nothing like WoW -- thankfully. WoW is like a tricycle with training wheels. It boggles me how anyone can have any sense of accomplishment in that game. While watching Jericho last night, I realized I hadn't watched the last three episodes of season 1, so I was a little lost. I thought I had watched all the episodes when Rob Hawkins had discovered who was behind the bombings, but apparently there were three more shows in which they meet people from a town called New Berm, continued into season 2. I didn't find the show significantly better or worse than season 1. It always was uneven, but it's better than most of the stuff on TV. Lost is uneven, Heroes is uneven -- there's not going to be many shows that just hit high notes every episode. I can't even think of one. You gotta support the good stuff so there's room for the great stuff. Relm: It more means I’m getting more exclusive about the guilds I consider. There’s plenty of non-raiding, casual raiding, or lower level raiding guilds in EQ2, that will take any character you want to play and fill their occasional raids with pickup raiders. But since I was in Veeshan’s Peak with Clan of Shadows, I wanted to continue there. And the guilds who are in VP or close to it at this time are looking for people who can contribute greatly. Raiding guilds always need healers, I just refuse to play mine as my main. I can’t afford the time to make Dera raid-ready, and I won’t give Dina up.

You can still play EQ2 and see nearly everything without raiding; and you can get excellent kick-butt instance gear and your epic without even one raid. Veeshan’s Peak is the only locked zone in all of Rise of Kunark — the original EQ locked Sebilis and Howling Stones as well.

Read Random-Battle today where Cameron gushes about an add-on that goes through your quest log and automatically makes little ant-trails on your map to show you which way to go to do your quests and places big arrows explaining what to do when you get there. EQ2 is nothing like WoW — thankfully. WoW is like a tricycle with training wheels. It boggles me how anyone can have any sense of accomplishment in that game.

While watching Jericho last night, I realized I hadn’t watched the last three episodes of season 1, so I was a little lost. I thought I had watched all the episodes when Rob Hawkins had discovered who was behind the bombings, but apparently there were three more shows in which they meet people from a town called New Berm, continued into season 2.

I didn’t find the show significantly better or worse than season 1. It always was uneven, but it’s better than most of the stuff on TV. Lost is uneven, Heroes is uneven — there’s not going to be many shows that just hit high notes every episode. I can’t even think of one. You gotta support the good stuff so there’s room for the great stuff.

]]> By: Relmstein http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5381 Relmstein Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:50:57 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5381 Oh on the issue of Jericho it doesn't help that the critics trashed it. Check out ww.metacritic.com Oh on the issue of Jericho it doesn’t help that the critics trashed it. Check out ww.metacritic.com

]]> By: Relmstein http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/comment-page-1/#comment-5380 Relmstein Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:49:44 +0000 http://westkarana.com/index.php/2008/02/13/jericho-lost-american-idol-and-my-first-dog-raid-on-eq2/#comment-5380 I beta tested Vanguard last year around October and even though it was bugged as hell it had a lot of really interesting lore and open endedness that reminded me of EQ1. If it wasn't for most of my friends being scared to leave World of Warcraft I probably would have bought Vanguard after it was all patched up. If you want a more directed and polished game experience I would recommend staying with Everquest 2. Though from some of the stories Tipa tells it seems the end game raiding guilds are starting to get a little too exclusive. If a MMO is ever at the point where most guilds are only looking for healing classes then it usually means the raiding scene has gotten stale and its not getting any fresh players. World of Warcraft has a very easy to get into raid scene and is about to get a new raid zone next month. However, some people find WoW a little too polished with all the goals layed out for you in a nice little row. I can tell you that almost every guild in WoW seems to be recruiting since a lot of players quit raiding in favor of PvP. I beta tested Vanguard last year around October and even though it was bugged as hell it had a lot of really interesting lore and open endedness that reminded me of EQ1. If it wasn’t for most of my friends being scared to leave World of Warcraft I probably would have bought Vanguard after it was all patched up.

If you want a more directed and polished game experience I would recommend staying with Everquest 2. Though from some of the stories Tipa tells it seems the end game raiding guilds are starting to get a little too exclusive. If a MMO is ever at the point where most guilds are only looking for healing classes then it usually means the raiding scene has gotten stale and its not getting any fresh players.

World of Warcraft has a very easy to get into raid scene and is about to get a new raid zone next month. However, some people find WoW a little too polished with all the goals layed out for you in a nice little row. I can tell you that almost every guild in WoW seems to be recruiting since a lot of players quit raiding in favor of PvP.

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